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Paul Craig Roberts: The US can cut Russia off from nothing. The Russians own US bonds & dollars.

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The Russian Oligarchs are clever, why don’t they sell the US bonds and Dollars?

Russia is showing a lot of restraint on the battlefield and internationally.

But the Neocons will eventually get the bear angry.

The million plus Russian Jews in Israel or with Israeli citizenship must also have a lot of influence. Sharansky (the last I heard) was appointed Israeli Minister for Russian affairs, following Putin’s visit to Israel.

If you don’t like Neocons, Russia can be seen as a hero! Who else stands up to them? And what are the Neocons apart from warmongers?

This is just an extract, follow the links at the end for the full article. Paul Craig Roberts is a proliic writer, his web site is at: http://www.vdare.com/roberts/all_columns.htm ,although this article is not there yet.

Paul Craig Roberts was Assistant Secretary of the Treasury in the Reagan administration. He was Associate Editor of the Wall Street Journal editorial page and Contributing Editor of National Review.

The neoconned Bush Regime is furious that the Russian bear was not intimidated by the US supported aggression of the American puppet state, Georgia. Instead of accepting the act of American hegemony that the neocon script called for, Russia sent the Americanized Georgian army fleeing in fear.

Having failed with weapons, the Bush Regime now unleashes the rhetoric. The White House is warning Russia that failure to acquiesce to US hegemony could have a “significant, long-term impact on relations between Washington and Moscow.”

Do the morons who comprise the Bush Regime really not understand that short of a surprise nuclear attack on Russia there is nothing whatsoever the US can do to Moscow?

The Bush Regime owns no Russian currency that it can dump. The Russians own US dollars.

The Bush Regime owns no Russian bonds that it can dump. The Russians own US bonds.

The US can cut Russia off from no energy supplies. Russia can cut America’s European allies off from energy.

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August 14, 2008 at 11:17 am

Closerview: Russians winning on the battlefield and losing in the media.

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Good analysis by a Russian speaker. Some informative extracts.

Posted by closerview on August 13, 2008

The Battlefield Victory

Russian military has full control of the war in South Ossetia and Abkhazia. Georgian mobilized reserves are running away in numbers, as stated by journalists at http://www.Utro.ru working in the area of the conflict. A military observer, analyzing the town of Gori, where the 4th battalion of the Georgian army has been stationed, said that the 4th battalion does not exist anymore. All over the ground there are uniforms, regalia, jeeps and trucks, along with heavy artillery and tanks are abandoned. The citizens of the town fled, fearing the the South Ossetian militia and the Russian army will start killing them, because of what the Georgians did in Tskhinvali. The Georgian President Saakashvili is trying to play it as Russians are on the move to oust him from power by force, take Tbilisi, and take over Georgia. […]

The Russian armored column, which was said to be moving towards Tbilisi, has turned away back to to the bases in South Ossetia and Abkhazia. The Georgian President, in frustration, is trying to accuse the Russian side [of] continuous bombing and military operations. Nevertheless, no military operations are being carried out. Georgian civilians have been constantly quoted by the media to say that they don’t want this fighting. They don’t want their children dying for Saakashvili, as he does not present a rallying figure to them. They are aware, despite the Russian media blockade in Georgia, that Russia does not want to take over Georgia and to forcefully make it part of the Russian Federation. In short, the battle has been won by the Russian military. Now it is a question of keeping peace.[…]

The Big Question: What’s in it for the U.S.?

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August 13, 2008 at 8:28 pm

Psychoanalyzing Georgia’s actions: motivated by unpopularity inside Georgia.

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And the best brains deliberate on what the reasons for the Georgian attack were?

  • The conspiracy to involve NATO?
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  • To occupy Russia while Iran is attacked?
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  • To remove a threat of insecurity around the BTC oil pipeline?

No it was none of the above.

It was a regime losing control at home in Georgia.

The regime was increasingly seen as corrupt and self serving.
It violently suppressed opposition demonstrations.

Crime in Georgia has been on the rise.

It was simply an action by an unpopular regime to take its populations minds off of their Government.

Which is precisely what we need to worry about with the Neocons and Iran or whoever.

The regime of course and its narrow clique of supporters inside and outside the country justified their actions by attempting to involve NATO, or occupying Russia while Iran is attacked, or removing a threat of insecurity around the BTC oil pipeline?

But their real motivation was their diminishing support inside Georgia!

See two posts before this: Washington Times: Georgias Unnoticed Unrest

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August 13, 2008 at 11:51 am

BBC Satirical headlines; Early Lessons: South Ossetia, Russia, Putin and Geopolitics

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The BBC has a web page on Lessons from South Ossetia, rather than copying the whole page here, I have only provided the nine headlines. They are meaningful and satirical..

I think the suporting arguments which are not here are selective (sometimes misleading) and no doubt reflect official UK policy. .

The link to the BBC is at the end of the post..

Early lessons from S Ossetia conflict

Monday, 11 August 2008

By Paul Reynolds BBC News website

1. Do not punch a bear on the nose unless it is tied down.

2. Russia is in a determined mood, to say the least.

3. Remember Kosovo.

4. Georgia is unlikely to join Nato anytime soon.

5. Vladmir Putin is still in charge.

6. Do not allow a cuckoo to police the nest.

7. The West still does not know how to deal with Russia.

8. Are borders in Europe to be sacrosanct for ever?

9. August is a good month in which to reflect on alliances.


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August 12, 2008 at 3:40 am

The Georgian conflict was engineered by Neocons to create a conflict between Russia and the US/NATO.

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The Georgian conflict was engineered by Neocons to create a conflict between Russia and the US/NATO.

Russia was not caught entirely offguard, (through good intelligence) it was ready:

On August 7, Russian forces were in an advanced state of readiness. The counterattack was swiftly carried out. […]

…With limited military capabilities, a Georgian victory and occupation of Tskhinvali, was an impossibility from the outset. And this was known and understood to US-NATO military planners.

A humanitarian disaster rather than a military victory was an integral part of the scenario. The objective was to destroy the provincial capital, while also inflicting a significant loss of human life.

If the objective were to restore Georgian political control over the provincial government, the operation would have been undertaken in a very different fashion, with Special Forces occupying key public buildings, communications networks and provincial institutions, rather than waging an all out bombing raid on residential areas, hospitals, not to mention Tskhinvali’s University.[…]

The war on Southern Ossetia was not meant to be won, leading to the restoration of Georgian sovereignty over South Ossetia. It was intended to destabilize the region while also triggering a US-NATO confrontation with Russia.

So what went wrong with this scheming brainchild?

The US didn’t deliver the military response that some high officials promised?

Had the Pentagon or the Whitehouse said they would assist Georgia in the event of conflict Russia?
And then they discovered they were overuled by the Defence Dept, or the CIA or the US miltary?

Was the whole Georgia debacle engineered by nerds with wishful thinking? With their heads in the clouds?
Thinking they could drag the US and Europe into a fight with Russia?


It is all reminiscent of the Hizbollah takeover of Beirut earlier this year, when Israel had been expected to intervene, and it did not.

One lesson to learn is, whoever Israels allies are in the US neocon movement, they better cut those ties.

Israel consistently comes out the loser.
So the reverse is also true, whoever the Israeli Neocons are, they should resign. They are probably the same people that engineered the Lebanon fiasco earlier this year.
They are no good for Israel, its allies, nor for the Jews.

The Israel Connection

Israel is now part of the Anglo-American military axis, which serves the interests of the Western oil giants in the Middle East and Central Asia.

Israel is a partner in the Baku-Tblisi- Ceyhan pipeline which brings oil and gas to the Eastern Mediterranean. More than 20 percent of Israeli oil is imported from Azerbaijan, of which a large share transits through the BTC pipeline. Controlled by British Petroleum, the BTC pipeline has dramatically changed the geopolitics of the Eastern Mediterranean and the Caucusus: […]

…Baku oil can be transported to Ashkelon [Israel…] and to India and the Far East.[via the Red sea]”


And so by Israel delivering oil to India and Asia, would this also lessen Asian countries dependence on Iranian oil? Or at least give Israel a similar influence to an oil producer?
Israel could target an Asian country and make it dependent on Israeli transited oil.

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August 11, 2008 at 12:19 pm

Georgia conflict: Israeli press releasing info on Israeli connection for damage limitation.

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From an Israeli point of view (and probably everyone elses) this is a disaster about to get worse, if only for the secrets about to be revealed. If and when any Israeli involvement is made public, it will not be such a shock because the Israeli press have already publicised the connection.

There are two previous posts on this blog quoting the Israeli press.

* Some sources claim that one of the SU-25 pilots downed by Russia spoke neither Russian nor English.

* At least one American citizen has been captured by the Russian forces. He is claimed to be an ‘advisor’ with the Georgian military.


… Israeli advisers were deeply involved in the Georgian army’s preparations to attack and capture the capital of South Ossetia on Friday.

or here:

For the past seven years, Israeli companies have been helping the Georgian army to prepare for war against Russia through arms deals, training of infantry units and security advice

The fighting which broke out over the weekend between Russia and Georgia has brought Israel’s intensive involvement in the region into the limelight. This involvement includes the sale of advanced weapons to Georgia and the training of the Georgian army’s infantry forces.


By the Israeli elite, the Georgia conflict is seen as a fiasco, bad publicity, and no gains, whoever will know what the operators were thinking?

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August 11, 2008 at 2:35 am

Maybe Russia won’t stop until Georgia surrenders

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Maybe Russia won’t stop.
Not until Georgia surrenders and has a subservient president.

The old president could seek asylum in Israel, the US or the UK. As he knows the people who put him up to making the attack he will never be free, and he will be lucky to live.

Militarily Russia is its own boss. The only threat would be terrorist activities inside Russia. The West has given Georgia to Russia. And doesn’t that also mean Russia will have the Golden BTC oil pipeline.

[The BTC] was realized in 2005 with the opening of the Baku-Tblisi-Ceyhan Pipeline. At any given point in time that single pipeline, the world’s second longest, has 10 million barrels in it. Since the taps were first turned on in 2005, some 1.1 billion barrels of oil have flowed through that pipeline – and that’s a whole lot of oil revenue that the Russians are missing out on.


BP as the controller of the BTC pipeline, is Russias least favorite oil company, about a year ago the Russians kicked BP out of some lucrative oil rights (for bumping up the expenses).
Russia has ruled Georgia on and off for centuries. So it doesn’t need to learn new tricks.

And if other countries should object to a continuing military campaign. Russia can point to Israel bombing Lebanon for a month (in 2006).

Why don’t I show sympathy for the Georgians? That they are Georgians is incidental. They are the flagship of the dreaded neocons. The evil of our time.

Russia is continuing attacks and PressTV (& others) are reporting a Georgian naval ship having been sunk.

The Russian bear is rising. And the West, the very same people that encouraged Georgia to attack, are on there way to make a blockade of Iran.

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August 10, 2008 at 10:13 pm

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