Instant Messaging (IM) with Gaza at Eid time
[ 28/11/2009 23:35:15] London: Happy Eid
in Gaza: TO YOU TOO
in Gaza: thanx
London: I saw a video on Eid in Gaza on PressTVs web site: http://www.presstv.ir/default.aspx
in Gaza: are you doing well??
London: I don’t think I am doing well, actually.
in Gaza: why?
London: Well I think I make enemies – I have toooo much to say
in Gaza: god bless u
in Gaza: Inshalah
London: God doesn’t always make his presence felt. I do think the birds can have messages. Do you have anything in your culture about birds knowing things, or giving messages?
in Gaza: i know a bird was used to send messages from place to place
we call it hamam alzajel
London: But I think the birds for sending messages are trained by humans
in Gaza: right
first the humans take them to the place which they want to send messages to
then they take them back tieing the message on their feet and then let them fly
London: Yes we call them “homing pigeons”, they have competitions with them – the enthusiasts..
in Gaza: aha
London: Have you been busy???
in Gaza: last days ? We were thinking of Sacrificing – in the feast
in Gaza: and my brother and o did it yesterday
London: Sacrificing an animal???
in Gaza: right
this is what all the moslems do in aladha feast
don’t u know about it?
London: This video is called travelers for eid
in Gaza: don’t u know about it?
London: Not very much, sort of hear about it every year, Islamic culture is starting to make a bigger impact in recent years, but it really is kept away from Western Mainstream Media
in Gaza: aha –
it is along story –
but one of the past messengers called (Ibrahim) Peace upon him
dreamed that he is killing his son
and when he wakes up he deals with the dream as an order from Allah
cause the messengers dreams are already messages from Allah
so he tell his son that i saw my self killing u
his son says “dad do what ever u are ordered to do”
when Ibrahim peace upon him started and want to kill his son
Gebril who is an angel responsible for delivering the messages from Allah and the messengers
came from the sky telling Ibrahim that Allah wants to save your son and sends you this goat to Sacrifice it
and it became an order for all on this day to do so even in cows or camels
this day named aladha feast
and there is some conditions for Sacrificing
London: I really enjoyed the story – even though often I do not remember later, it has drama because the unexpected happens, and there is a similarity with Hindus from India, because they have someone called Narada, who is a messenger from God.
in Gaza: Narada
I DON’T hear about him before
in Gaza: u mean by india the moslims there??
London: I once met a lady from the Gulf area, and I asked her if everyone is religious? And she said, in Muslim countries everyone has it in them..
London: No not the Muslims. Hindus
in Gaza: has what?
but hinus is not a real religion
Hindus was invented by humans
London: The Islamic way of living/understanding. You see in the West, we also have completely secular people, who have no knowledge or interest in religion, from this we can observe: rational thought, democracy, republicanism, communism etc.
London: Hindus, technically means anyone east of the river Indus, but in reality it is a religion, even though it comprises hundreds or thousands of religions in India, their holy books are called the Vedas, and they claim they are the oldest books known to humans.
in Gaza: this is not true in my religion
they are praying for things like cows, fire, sun, ETC
so this is not usual
we all have to pray just for Allah
London: Not usual for a Muslim. That is all you can say. Isn’t it?
in Gaza: could u pray for an animal ??
could believe that an animal could protect u and help u?
could u believe in a god who is dieing ?
London: I do believe the Cow is Holy. I do not believe we should eat it. In India the cows are walking around everywhere freely, without a tethering – it is a pleasure to see
I already said I believe the birds have messages – that is an animal protecting…
in Gaza: respecting is totally different of praying for
we have to believe in the creator
who can create but not being created
would u believe that the cow create itself?
if so she would make herself stronger and stay alive forever
London: I do not believe a cow can create itself – but it was not an intelligent question -)
in Gaza: i mean it
in Gaza: i respect ur opinion but why??
London: The most fanatical israelis seem to believe in God
London: why what??
in Gaza: why it is not an intelligent question??
London: It is rhetorical – and the answer is known before it is received –
[00:16:43] in Gaza: the Jewish is a religion from Allah
we believe in their messenger Eisa
but no there is no Jewish
Allah says this
so you are with me in believing in the creator not the created
London: I think I like Sharia law – I am not that keen on devotional ways of being, and I am terrified of organised religion…
in Gaza: aha
London: The truth stands alone – someone famous said
in Gaza: did u read the Holy Quran before
sorry for asking
but i want to say that u will find things from the past. the present, the future in it
London: No, I have glanced at it, i also do not know the Jewish or Christian holy texts. I definitely can digest Rumi easily.
in Gaza: u will find everything written
London: I do not doubt: the past. the present, and the future are in it
in Gaza: and u will find much about the Jewish
at the same time there is no other old holy texts
even the Jewish or Christian texts
so the holy quran is the only original one
and the last one from Allah
so islam is the last religion which the people have to believe in
and they will be asked about it in the Judgement day
this is what the quran says
London: The world would be better off with Sharia law, I think. Also realize that (I think) outside of the Middle East, Islam in Muslim countries is more diluted.
in Gaza: Cultural invasion
London: If the USA goes bust, Islam will continue to spread its influence – If the USA does not go bust, it is going to continue to try to eradicate Islam, I think.
in Gaza: but this will not happen
London: Islam is a threat to Capitalism
in Gaza: i told u before Allah says we give you the quran and we will protect it
London: Well America and Britain are going broke from fighting Islam
in Gaza: watch this yourself
sooner or later
our holy quran says
before the Judgement day we will fight the Jewish
and Christians who believed that Eisan or the Christ is dead will be wrong
he is now with the god
and he will back to fight the Jewish
and this is not strange
he was born without a father – guess u know this –
so it is not difficult for Allah to protect him and replace him with another one similar
and he stuke in there hands , they kill him
but he wasn’t the Christ
but the Christians do not believe this
this is why they are walking in the wrong way now
and they are not enjoying faith
London: The only Muslim powers that Jewish power can accommodate are Capitalist ones – Islam is not acceptable to those in power in the Jewish world.
in Gaza: yes it is
but everything is going to change
we know this
London: Yes change is knocking on everyone’s door – something silly might happen as well – like an unnecessary war
London: You know I have to go to sleep, it is very late (even later for you) and I am a little worried about my day to day situation – meaning tomorrow, to start with.
in Gaza: good luck
London: Thank you
in Gaza: have a nice night and don’t dream in wars
London: I won’t, you made it sound like dreams were holy, when you were telling the story of Eid
in Gaza: it is
for the messengers and some faith people
London: Interesting –
in Gaza: the truth always is
London: Yes, By the Way, I might use some of this conversation, in a post, of course I will send you the url, is that okay with you???
in Gaza: yes it is
i believe in every word i’ve said
so go ahead
with my signature
London: ليلة طيبة وجيدة الأحلام
in Gaza: hahahahahahah
how did u do it?
in Gaza: to you too
nice from u
in Gaza: aha
London: Okay bye for now
in Gaza: bye