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Will Israel disintegrate?

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The danger signs are hardly there for those that feel contented. On the contrary Israel’s detractors see it differently.

And anyone who has no faith in Israel’s policies is a detractor. And a detractor is in jeopardy.

I have decided to make Israeli friends, this is a crisis for Israel, the Jews and the world.

And the isolated like me will disappear. I just read Hamas has placed Fatah supporters in Gaza under house arrest for fear they will collaborate with the advancing Israelis, so too is my predicament.

I have lived in Israel in the past, and wandered away. And I am seen as someone who would collaborate, maybe more on that later in the post…

But the Israelis can be brutal, and house arrest would be a luxury compared to what they dish out. A detractor like everyone else needs fear.

Considering the divergent internal forces in the Israeli national psyche:

The settler movement is self evident: A desire for a greater Israel in God’s promised land.

The secular (or semi secular) Israelis inside the 67 borders, while it is ingrained in everyone to support their country right or wrong. One can guess 20% of them don’t support any assault / Violence on Gaza.

And probably just a third of them want a total assault resulting in submission.

The other half are somewhere inbetween, perhaps content for a war of attrition with some negotiation.

Above each group of people are powerful players who operate outside of democracy and have their own agendas, largely kept secret. But who have hidden hands and control over the media. Which is peoples minds.


The religious wish for a continuity of the Jewish tribe, presumably above all else, and perhaps see Islam as threatening.

The Moneyed see that dominance can be achieved in a non violent way.

And the military (militant?) obviously see that force can achieve all.

There are hidden agendas, which I won’t speculate on out of fear. But they certainly require the acquiescence of people.

The diaspora is probably distancing itself and questioning the very need for Israel in ever greater numbers, Neocons excluded!

There was to be a massivedemonstration in Tel Aviv yesterday against the war, I would have liked to think it was going to be the largest demo ever seen in Israel. But I have seen no news reports of it, it must have flopped?… (there were some protests outside some ministers places).

I think there will be big demos in the future of this Gaza operation. Just as Americans switched from being pro Iraq war to against it. And as the first Lebanon war produced.

There is a strict patriotism in the psyche of Israelis. While you hear Americans and English and many others openly deride their country, you’ll rarely hear an Israeli say such a thing.

Tempers run high, and the mood of the country must be at fever pitch. It is hard to see how it can remain united. Particularly with the threat of the war widening.

It will take time for the Penny to drop, for the 100th monkey effect to set in. That is for the Israelis to become aware of the hidden agendas by powerful forces, and for a reappraisal of what Israel, the Jews and Judaism have in common, and indeed what any of them have in common with the rest of the planet.

But at this point noone is questioning their duty to fight for the country, whether they are fighting for or against the Gaza invasion. But it all smells of disintegration.

When there is a chance to be set free, I imagine many would welcome it. I am not allowed any freedom at all. That is why I have to keep writing about Jews and Israel.

Meanwhile Gazans die, F 16s bomb, all the laws of war and humanity are broken, and the war continues.

Hamas moves on Fatah ‘collaborators
Jerusalem Post | 4 January 2009 | Khaled Abu Toameh
Posted on Saturday, January 03, 2009 3:55:13 PM by ScaniaBoy

The Hamas government has placed dozens of Fatah members under house arrest out of fear that they might exploit the current IDF operation to regain control of the Gaza Strip.

The move came amid reports that the Fatah leadership in the West Bank has instructed its followers to be ready to assume power over the Gaza Strip when and if Israel’s military operation results in the removal of Hamas rule.

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Tipothehat: whatreallyhappened

Written by morris

January 4, 2009 at 6:36 am

Posted in Gaza, israel

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  1. sraeli political figures such as Knesset members Dov Khenin and Ahmad Tibi joined thousands of demonstrators in Tel Aviv late Saturday to condemn Tel Aviv for its launch of Operation Cast Lead on Gaza.

    So far Israeli forces have killed 480 Gazans and wounded 2750 others in the operation, a large number of whom are civilians.

    “I came here to demonstrate along with thousands of citizens in Tel Aviv and all across the country… calling to stop this war, which is a disaster. It hasn’t solved the security problems in the south, and nothing good will come out of it,” Khenin told Ynet.

    The demonstrators chanted “Defense Minister Barak, how many children have you murdered today?” They carried flags that read “Stop the fire” and “Children in Gaza and Sderot wish to live.”

    Other banners read “Jews and Arabs refuse to be enemies!” and “You want to stop Hamas? Give Gaza hope, not war!”

    The rally, organized by such groups as Gush Shalom, the Hadash party and the Coalition of Women for Peace, has been described as the biggest Israel has seen in recent years.

    “This is indeed the biggest demonstration we have seen over the past decade,” said Balad chairperson Jamal Zahalka, who attended the rall

    sraeli political figures such as Knesset members Dov Khenin and Ahmad Tibi joined thousands of demonstrators in Tel Aviv late Saturday to condemn Tel Aviv for its launch of Operation Cast Lead on Gaza.

    So far Israeli forces have killed 480 Gazans and wounded 2750 others in the operation, a large number of whom are civilians.

    “I came here to demonstrate along with thousands of citizens in Tel Aviv and all across the country… calling to stop this war, which is a disaster. It hasn’t solved the security problems in the south, and nothing good will come out of it,” Khenin told Ynet.

    The demonstrators chanted “Defense Minister Barak, how many children have you murdered today?” They carried flags that read “Stop the fire” and “Children in Gaza and Sderot wish to live.”

    Other banners read “Jews and Arabs refuse to be enemies!” and “You want to stop Hamas? Give Gaza hope, not war!”

    The rally, organized by such groups as Gush Shalom, the Hadash party and the Coalition of Women for Peace, has been described as the biggest Israel has seen in recent years.

    “This is indeed the biggest demonstration we have seen over the past decade,” said Balad chairperson Jamal Zahalka, who attended the rall

    From PressTV

    morris

    January 4, 2009 at 8:49 am


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