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To dispense with modern medicine is not an argument I am making, but to think naturally and preventively will help.
And being ill is an altered state of consciousness.
People take drugs, do hypnotism, meditate and even pray, to reach this state.
To disturb someone meditating would impede their ability to reach an altered state. This might explain why critisizing religion is a ‘no go’. religion should bring us also into an altered state. Just like the Greek Oracle or NostraDamus could.
Friday, 20 June 2008
A message.
I tell you, God is fed up with the whole bloody lot. He/She/It is sick and tired with you lot.
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God also doesn’t give a damn about your religion, believe it or not. He couldn’t care less…Your crosses, your laws, your veils, your kippas, your statues, your feathers and your masks…You created them for you not for Him. He has no need for them. You do.
You are all so self-sufficient, you don’t need anyone. So don’t whine if He doesn’t show up.
To be Jewish and not show pride in the Jews is tantamount to treasonous behaviour.
An American (or Britisher) can say they are embarrassed to say they are an American (or British).
A Christian could say it is meaningless.
Neither of these statements would ruffle a feather.
But with a ‘he is’ or ’she is’ a Jew an instinct is awakened.
Now we have had a Jewish Vice president, early on Jews were proud of this and would be happy to champion the fact.
But now with no popularity or likable plans, Jews would be hesitant to wave his flag.
Herein is a lesson, to voice pride as an impulse and not with reason might be a mistake.
There certainly is a comraderie on the strength of the pride. And it has proved to be powerful. Maybe too powerful. That is a peculiar problem. The myth of the superman israeli soldier was intentionally debunked more than a decade ago.
What about the myth of what’s good for one Jew is good for all Jews?
…The University of Michigan Press’s decision to stop distributing books by Pluto Press, a leftwing British publisher whose big offense was publishing Overcoming Zionism, by Joel Kovel. What is there to say other than that it’s tragic? Kovel is for a one-state solution.
– A call to transform Israel into a secular democracy by a leading writer –
‘This book is absolutely fundamental for those who reject the unfortunate confusion between Jews, Judaism, Zionism and the State of Israel — a confusion which is the basis for systematic manipulation by the imperialist power system. It convincingly argues in favour of a single secular state for Israelis and Palestinians as the only democratic solution for the region.’
Samir Amin, director of the Third World Forum
‘Joel Kovel’s uncompromising criticism of Zionism is rooted in a very deep feeling of empathy and solidarity with his fellow-Jews caught in the death-trap of the Zionist adventure. The way out Kovel is suggesting - a bi-national Israeli-Palestinian state - may be challenged, but definitely not ignored.’
Could the Jews stop the wars & the destruction of the planet?
Yes at the drop of a hat they could.
The ones at the top have the brains and the power.
Perhaps they are worried about their own necks, meaning stopping the wars would be an admission of guilt.
This unabashed craving for hegemony, to conquer others will be the undoing.
Underneath the faulty hubris must be a messianic call.
In the end the Jewish empire will collapse. Because they couldn’t care less about lives. And they couldn’t care less about an individuals liberty. And that includes other Jews and Israelis.
So much blood, for what?
And all signs from Tel-Aviv and Washington are for ‘more of the same.
The Universe will teach the NeoCons that they are humans too. Even if they thought they were chosen.
For the time being they will listen to noone, even though it is obvious the entire world (except for chosen mercenaries and the totally corrupted) is opposed to the White House policies.
The economist makes a long list of convincing reasons why banning the AKP would be very bad for Europe. It predicts disorder and a strengthening of islamic parties and disquiet over much of the Turkish nation.
The secularist elite, the economist points out, is shrinking.
The question is, is there outside meddling. Is it a neocon manipulation? Are forces of industry and finance desiring a ‘regime change’. Judging from the economist we can expect it all to go haywire.
It all seems similar to the PA challenging Hamas in Gaza or the Leb. government taking on Hizbollah.
The AKP just won 47% of the vote, and have ruled for 6 years.
The economist does not mention the size of Turkey’s military (it is huge), nor the repercussions for the west if the judiciary and military become discredited, through a failed policy.
The panic amongst the secularists and the military is that the government could move towards Iran.
Turkey has refused to accept any more hospitality from the IMF and the government feels it can succeed without the loans and subsequent policing of them. So we know the IMF is upset (and that includes their friends, other private and institutional investors).
It smells like turmoil is on its way, and the irony is this is the government that started talks with the EU.
Maybe Iran can act as peacemaker? It has a good record in Iraq and Lebanon. And Iran is cooperating with Turkey on Kurdish issues.
BTW the auhoritative economist has its own intelligence unit.
If this is a NeoCon triggered plan, how can they imagine to succeed when nothing else they have done has worked?
From another Economist opinion piece on the same issue:
To many the case is like a judicial coup: a last-ditch attempt to cling to power by an elite that refuses to share wealth and social space with a rising class of pious Turks, symbolised by the AKP. It may also further discredit the constitutional court.
And this article ends on this sentence:
… the threat of radical Islam in Turkey may have increased thanks to the secularists’ attack on the AKP.
INCREDIBLE ‘LEVITATING - STONES’ IN A DARGAH NEAR PUNE
by V.S.Gopalakrishnan Though holder of a Master’s degree in Physics -my Ph.D. was in Commerce- and I was very science-minded, I always had a curiosity about the supernatural. Someone told me about the mystery of the levitating stones in a dargah close to Pune,….
The bigger stone is perhaps 18 inches in diameter and is said to weigh roughly 140 lbs. The smaller stone is perhaps around 14 inches in diameter and is said to weigh about 100 lbs. ( It’s so sad that these simple physical properties have not been recorded and kept ). No single person can lift any of the stones from the ground with all the ten fingers, heavy indeed as they are.
How do the stones ‘levitate’? The word ‘levitate’ is perhaps a misnomer because they do not go up from the ground by themselves. Then, what is the miracle about the stones? My younger son of about 10 years and I were keen participants in the mystery-act. Any eleven males (including boys) could stand around the big stone lying on the ground. Each person has to simply bend down and ‘gently’ touch the stone with just one index finger. The touching has to be in the bottom half, not the top portion of the stone. After the eleven people thus touch the stone, all of them have to utter, in unison and loudly, the expression, “Kamarali Darvesh”. My experience was incredible. The stone rises up to eight feet before falling to the ground. While the stone was rising, your index finger feels very light and there is no pressure on it. It was as if some spiritual force through the eleven of us was guiding the stone to rise up. Why does it fall after going up eight feet or so? It is because our finger can no longer touch it above that height. This miracle, it is said, does not work with women, as the Kamarali baba was a bachelor.
(Photo credit: The Sunday Tribune, 23 Sept. 2001, photo appearing in the article by Shona Adhikari)
I think any group of people can do this. It is just that in our modern culture of division of labour, we are no longer able to group together and join forces in a concentrated way.
When a Medium goes into trance, they can only do it in a group of people. The combined energy is needed.
There is a debate going on about whether the solution for Israel is a one or two state solution. Both Avnery and Olmert (just a few days ago) have said this. One state might mean not having to withdraw the settlements. This is what Rabin Peres were doing 15 years ago. But with the clear realisation that the majority population would soon be Arab, something would need to be done to insure an ethnic western majority (or as in the South African situation, the colonisers remain in charge of business).
Allowing non Jews to immigrate is an option, it would also be a way for Israel to say thank you to its US non Jewish friends that have been loyal. There is a risk of Israel and the US going in different directions anyway. Think of it like when the US left Vietnam or Iran, natives that were loyal to the US also went to the US. so now those that were loyal to Israel would also be allowed to immigrate to Israel. It would take care of the demography problem (too many Arabs) It would cater to so-called Christian Zionists, it would revitalize the empty immigration to Israel. Finally it would prevent a massive anti Israeli backlash from the recession headed US. Because there would be so many US citizens in Israel too.
With regard to allowing non Jews: How many of Israels population is anyway assimilated. Even if they think they are not. Put them next to a Lubavitcher and they look assimilated. This would also prevent Israel being hijacked by the large Russian community, which in the absence of US support is a possibility.
If such a radical rethink is going on, we could also get some pleasant surprises in the way of social and family law reforms.
Jewish looking at Ron Paul?
The news about Ron Paul’s relatives helping him in his campaign means he is gaining approval from the religious to continue. The Washington Post ran an article on this yesterday. And the subject has been picked up everywhere.
I wish him a happy family.
These days the mainstream media represents the ruling elite. And the family is the cornerstone of our society (and it is true). Public figures need to qualify, and set an example.
Bush to son, Clinton to wife.
Ron Paul is also making the same statement by having his family work for him.
Moving on, Ron Paul intends to dismantle and do away with the Federal Reserve. That in itself is a revolution.The internet has publicised the knowledge about Fiat money (not backing the currency with anything, like Gold for example) and that the Fed is privately owned.
As everyone is saying, America has lost its economy, it is very ripe for a (peaceful) revolution.
With Nepotism as a banner it will please everyone. Religion and family are the same thing. That’s a good formula: all the revolution you want, but not including religion.
The power of religion is rarely discussed openly, save for gossipy comments of the wealth of the Vatican. Or the wealth of the British throne which is head of the Church of England. Or looking at pictures of Presidents and Prime Ministers with Rabbis. Clearly there is a power there, so any insight into how they think would be useful. What follows is an excerpt of a review of just what life and death meant in the Bible times.
When business, politics, private life are all rolled into one. Then we have judge jury and prosecutor all rolled into one. When power revolves around a knowledge of people’s private lives, then that is authoritarian. If it is highly effective, then we must ask: ‘what has gone wrong?’. (see post for more)
You are blessed with being quick on your feet. When everything is changing, you can alter course in a ‘concerted’ way. Now is the time. Hush hush and damage limitation will no longer work. When the tide is changing due to an unforeseen enemy (the internet). (see post for more)
After Bush leaves office there will be a clamour for prosecuting him & his colleagues for war crimes. Also the US will be in the midst of a recession and there will be a cry for justice there.
Olmert says only those hallucinating can think of keeping post 67 territories. (Haaretz later changed the word hallucinating to delusional) It seems everything is up for grabs. (see post for more)
“I propose leasing the Golan from the Syrians for 25 years. If they are serious about peace they have nothing to lose,” Israeli interior minister Meir Sheetrit said on Sunday” Maybe he should be put on the front line. see post for more
The people with the real power keep themselves well out of sight. And until you speak nicely about them, you are watched 24 hours a day. Essentially framed to be involved in some form of criminal or perverse activity everyday.
Now we find ourselves in a consesus of doom. Everyone is anticipating an end to the era we are in. Those in power might fret about calls for justice, but they are still in power, every minute of every day right now. The whole shabang is creeking, weather, resourses and wars. Increasingly debates on internet forums focus on the Industrialists, on the multinationals. The speculators (read: financiers) are singled out as responsible for rising food and oil costs. Well none of the above are going to relinquish…
http://www.naturalnews.com/023274.html Depleted Uranium Shells Used by U.S. Military Worse Than Nuclear Weapons Tuesday, May 20, 2008 by: David Gutierrez Since the first Gulf War, the rate of birth defects and childhood cancer in Iraq has increased by seven times. More than 35 percent (251,000) of U.S. Gulf War veterans are dead or on permanent medical disability, compared with [...]
Israel couldn’t leave settlers in Golan in a peace agreement. They would report back that living under Arab rule has its advantages. This would be anathema to the Israeli establishment. For this reason any withdrawal will be staged over years, and generous compensation will be given. Any settlers allowed to remain would be cherry picked for [...]
The free west, sex for sale, drugs for sale, money is the religion. And everyone can be made to play the game, very simply, by honing in on a person’s weakness or prejudice. It is possible to drive a person crazy. After all when money is the only legal tender, anything goes. All under the illusion of being liberal.
Maybe being a Doctor, apart from an obvious desire to help others, also gives one the self confidence to oppose the mediocre mainstream, to be a pioneer.
nderstanding the magnificent rewards of a free society makes us unbashful in its promotion, fully realizing that maximum wealth is created and the greatest chance for peace comes from a society respectful of individual liberty. ” [ ... ]
Western sovereign funds needed. Even if the oil industry were nationalised. The state could continue to invest overseas. No country refuses this, not Burma nor Iran. With a nationalised oil industry, there would be less calls for war, we wouldn’t be dependent so much on the vanity of private shareholders. The wealth would come to the Government. And the western Governments could operate their sovereign funds, just like the Sheiks do.
We have a dissident, he is concerned about the Palestinians. He says not in his name. Where does he live? And who are his family? Where does his family work? (see post for more)
Jamie Spector, 32, a social worker with the San Francisco Unified School District, has been held in detention at Ben-Gurion Airport near Tel Aviv since she landed Saturday Kate Raphael Bender was arrested Dec. 14 during a protest against Israel’s controversial security barrier at the village of Bil’in, near Ramallah in the West Bank. She has spent the last month in a detention center awaiting a hearing and preparing her appeal against deportation. (see post for more)
No matter what happens from now on, the Israeli character has been established. Whether the diaspora supports it or not, whether Israel loses allies or not.
We will fizzle from corruption, and then lose the values we are proud of like womens rights, and a host of other western freedoms. As we all know, the gap between rich and poor is getting bigger and bigger.
Judaism without political and economic power must be amazing. Now we are at the zenith of Judaic power, I just wonder if Jews themselves are feeling a divide, as if they are not a part of the ruling elite. And that decisions being taken are not in their best interests.A feeling that a secretive group of people would happily dupe another Jew into a false sense of identity, by appealing to a base nationalistic instinct. There is a human craving ‘to belong’. Maybe it needs to be recognised as exactly…
And I have also been thinking our capitalist system seems and feels Jewish, then I discovered Marx had written an essay ‘on the Jewish question’, what follows are two extracts, the first from an Israeli website, the second extract from Wikipedia. Do the extracts relate to capitalism? At least a little they do.
Frankly it means no world war. As long as there was an alliance between the Anglo Saxons: The US, Australia, the UK. It meant war after war. The relics of the Bush administration as in Condi Rice still bemoan when peaceful agreements are reached, like the one in Lebanon now. Unfortunately, the Israelis think only the right can make peace, So all eyes are on a successor to Olmert, and people will think the Likud types are the answer.They say Begin made the peace with Egypt, well Avnery points out Egypt had…
Vanunu got sentenced to solitary confinement. I have read there are noticeable effects on his speech and behaviour from all the time he spent incarcerated alone. Also I think I read he is going to be able to go to Norway. Well anyway the point of this post is with modern surveillance it is not always necessary [...]
Would Israel be clever enough to take a diminished Middle East role? To be just another small nation in the Middle East. Or will it accept nothing less than an economic hegemony. Trade is the cement for peace agreements, we all know Israel would like oil flowing from Iraq. In the Camp David agreements with Egypt, Israel secured guarantees for Egyptian oil.
Being undesirable: Having undesirable politics, leads to being watched 24 hours a day, and any and all relationships broken and corrupted. The local police are always available to join in. The human is a social animal. So ultimately the victim obligingly enters into conversation with whomever is receptive. However this receptive third party is surely involved in some underhand activities, or is known for some form of perversion. It is not for nothing that dark times … (more in post)
The power of religion is rarely discussed openly, save for gossipy comments of the wealth of the Vatican. Or the wealth of the British throne which is head of the Church of England. Or looking at pictures of Presidents and Prime Ministers with Rabbis.
Clearly there is a power there, so any insight into how they think would be useful. What follows is an excerpt of a review of just what life and death meant in the Bible times.
The reviewer inevitably compares modern materialistic man, with his/her sense of individuality and consumer ethic, to those that lived 1,000’s of years ago.
We can assume the devout today are reenacting the lifestyle of the ancients, and indeed enjoying the sense of community, lineage and territoriality that the Biblical people lived.
Being a modern man rather disenfranchised it all sounds very romantic to me. This extract suggests the ease there is in sending people off to war, when their lives are meaningless (dead). The only criticism I could offer is: if enslavement is death, why are we so involved in enslaving others. And it would appear that Muslims also value community, lineage and a sense of territory (not being exiled).
When I look at the NeoCons, and I know they think God has spoken to them. They are in fact a bunch of Oil people divorced from spiritual religion. And yes they are partnered with some Zionist forces, it makes one wonder if religion wouldn’t make a better job of it all. But then you look at Israel which is governed by Jewish law, where is the humanity? Now it is US election time, and at all times there are discussions about which candidates priest said what, reinforcing the importance of religion.
Anyway if we could judge todays politics with biblical values, it would be difficult!
The other form of biblical death is childlessness (I don’t have any, I would love to have, albeit with mixed fears in todays world, and with my situation, but that is another post) which makes me think of Edward Heath, he was a British Prime Minister some decades ago, and he was a bachelor, that could never never happen today.
And no I am not gay, and I have no reason to think this PM was.
The only sign of religion I see around me is a concern for image and ritual.
BOOK REVIEW: Life and death in the Bible
The power of God for Christians and Jews by Kevin J Madigan and Jon D Levenson . Reviewed by Spengler
Life and death to the ancient Hebrews were a moral conditions more than medical one, the authors explain. Enslavement and looming cultural extinction were felt as the grave, as was childlessness. National redemption and the covenantal promise of continuity of Abraham’s line were a restoration of life, a resurrection in the earliest stirring of Hebrew religious sensibility. The modern materialist view of life and death, the authors remind us, has little in common with the way in which ancient readers of the Bible understood existence.
One might go farther, and assert that the Biblical understanding of life and death still prevails today among most of the world’s six billion souls. The materialism of modern political science sadly misjudges the demands of the human heart. Nations are willing to fight to the death because their national life already has become a living death, in just the way the Bible saw it. In their hearts they already have gone down to Sheol, and the world holds no greater terror for them than what they live each day.
When business, politics, private life are all rolled into one. Then we have judge jury and prosecutor all rolled into one.
When power revolves around a knowledge of people’s private lives, then that is authoritarian.
If it is highly effective, then we must ask: ‘what has gone wrong?’.
Unwinnable wars, sinking business model, and the vast majority’s private lifes a mess.
We can only conclude in this day and age, to have all three tied up in the same peoples hands, is not working.
And maybe it could only ever have worked for a minority.
Business people throughout the Bush Administration, and the religious seem very rare as a voice of opposition.
Can we take two steps back?
Start by a dismantling.
There are no more conquests available. When business wants to know your private life, then we have a mafia. When spirituality is reduced to ritual and laws, maybe that is more a focus on a pyramid structure.
We need a very quiet and peaceful revolution. Where forgiveness becomes a possibility.
Now it is a harsh, surreptitious coercion, where fear is the only weapon.
All you wise people in power, you will never lose your brains, or your abilities. So don’t fear the earthquakes that are beckoning.
We can start by realizing everything we have learned and been told is a hoax.
And saying that Outloud!
Once it is said outloud, then new beginnings can happen.
No matter what happens from now on, the Israeli character has been established. Whether the diaspora supports it or not, whether Israel loses allies or not.
No doubt the religion can take most of the credit for this. The average Israeli will reference God and their mother, probably within the first few sentences. This is also a form of radar, to ascertain your reliability. If you fail, well –> to the cesspit. Which doesn’t mean you won’t be spoken to, it just means you have been relegated to substandard.
Anyway like most nationals one is patriotic to their own country first. There are some sympathies extended to the politically misfortunate; Burmese, Tibetans and Zimbabweans for example.
But apart from that, the poor of England or the United States are not really a concern.
An English or American Jew might have some sympathy for their country, (probably most of them, but not all).
There are now a million Russians that have gone to Israel, I know nothing about them, I think they are mostly on the political right, it will be interesting to see their power grow in Israel particularly as the American glow is faltering. Israelis can cope with change they are quick on their feet.
Some will say America died for Israel. Now we are in the post Zionist era, just awaiting a redefining and reinventing of Zionism. America will likely go off fighting Pakistani militants, even though it is in its death throws.
The English went around the world building railroads and teaching English. The Americans made Israel.
It would be good to see the Israelis care about some other people, apart from the Burmese, Tibetans and Zimbabweans. Anyway what the Zimbabweans have done that is wrong is they have kicked the white farmers off of their farm land. Presumably the Burmese haven’t sold themselves out enough, and the Tibetans, well it is hard to make sense of that one. Oh ya and there is the Kurds.
Now - all together now - sing together now - …..
Do the Jews cheat the Jews?
Of course they do, they are humans. Outside of treason most things are fair game. That there is stealing, lying and more is no secret.
But as the veil of Zionism is increasingly under the microscope. More and more illusions might be questioned.
Just as that famous Baseballer (Pat Tillman) was disclosed to have died in Afghanistan by friendly fire. He had dropped his career to fight for his country, and then the circumstances of his death were covered up.
Could Jews and Israelis begin to ask themselves to what end they are fighting? To question who exactly is in charge and to what extent a Jew is a part of the Jewish culture. Jews are governed by their laws and by those that govern. Over the last decade or two, more and more publicity is given to the lack of power of the nation state, particularly vis a vis the multinationals. Can this be used as a metaphor for the Jew.
The power of the Jews over the Jews is also international. It is no longer possible to go to another country and start anew and assimilate.
All to often there is for all intents an assimilated Jew basking in his or her Jewishness. Yet are they in any way aware of the power structure of the Jews, or in its laws, or in the way they are administered.
He or She has been told of the holocaust and the victimisation of the Jews. That this happened without apparent reason. And with this identity the Jew is prepared to fight for Judaism.
But it is unlikely that many Jews are aware of the secretive oligarchy of the Jews. how they work, or indeed how they think.
Judaism without political and economic power must be amazing. Now we are at the zenith of Judaic power, I just wonder if Jews themselves are feeling a divide, as if they are not a part of the ruling elite. And that decisions being taken are not in their best interests.
A feeling that a secretive group of people would happily dupe another Jew into a false sense of identity, by appealing to a base nationalistic instinct. There is a human craving ‘to belong’. Maybe it needs to be recognised as exactly that. Is it possible to raise a nation on the premise of lies?
There is such an inundation of news of the financial markets in near collapse. The experts over and over repeat it is bad, we can also witness this ourselves, by seeing the rising prices and probably less income. It is not hard to imagine the most powerful spending more than they have, principally on armaments, (personal indulgences would be petty). But we are talking of trillions going missing, and to waste that amount, can only be explained by empire building, to squander trillions isn’t easy, it required faulty logic to start with.
The whole debt driven economy seems to be coming to an end, but it was a philosophy, the credit cards and the mortgages.
Islam actually has laws governing the economy, one law was reprinted on this blog the other day, ‘that no financial transaction shall take place without the goods being delivered’, meaning no speculation.
In Christianity we have the image of Jesus kicking out the money lenders. Although I think I read that he died three days later. Anyway I started thinking about Marx, who said capitalism will come to an end, it will simply cease to exist.
And I have also been thinking our capitalist system seems and feels Jewish, then I discovered Marx had written an essay ‘on the Jewish question’, what follows are two extracts, the first from an Israeli website, the second extract from Wikipedia. Do the extracts relate to capitalism? At least a little they do.
Jews would never abandon the tenet of being the chosen people and drop their messianic expectations. Nor would they abandon Judaism as a system of law, and this was precisely the reason, Bauer thought, for the impossibility of liberating the Jews.
Marx’s article was originally intended to counter the claims made by Bruno Bauer - another prominent German thinker of Jewish origin. Bauer stated that Jews could never be emancipated, because of what he called “Jewish narrowness”, in other words, their commitment to the Jewish faith, which is incompatible with the universal aspect of human emancipation. By that he meant that Jews could never be granted the rights of citizens, since they are incapable of playing any political game except their own.
In part II of the essay, Marx refers to Thomas Müntzer:
The view of nature attained under the domination of private property and money is a real contempt for, and practical debasement of, nature; in the Jewish religion, nature exists, it is true, but it exists only in imagination. It is in this sense that [in a 1524 pamphlet] Thomas Münzer declares it intolerable
“that all creatures have been turned into property, the fishes in the water, the birds in the air, the plants on the earth; the creatures, too, must become free.”
Marx concludes that “the Christians have become Jews”; and, ultimately, it is mankind (both Christians and Jews) that needs to emancipate itself from (”practical”) Judaism.
Quotes from this part of the essay are frequently cited as proof of Marx’ antisemitism.
The Saudis have a unit of the police force called ‘family police’. If a woman is out on her own unchaperoned without her family, or dressed improperly, or driving her car, she is in trouble.
In Israel there has long been talk about the religious Jews who are excused from the military, as instead they study the religion. There is always something noble about studying anything ancient.
What happens to these people in the culture of the religious? At election time every member votes according to what the head Rabbi of their following says. It is similar on some Ashram communities, the master must make decisions for the community’s individual members.
Anyway here we are with a lot of religious Jews, guessing I would say up to a half a million. Now what are they doing? They raise families, go into business, become Rabbis, and generally further the religion’s aims. It would be a ‘Mitzvah’ a miracle to guide a wayward Jew to the higher truth of the religion. And similarly to impede any opposition. Now the best way to undermine any opposition is to interfere in a person’s personal life. Most issues can be dealt with through the family. Israel is governed by Jewish law. If a Palestinian terrorist is caught, his or her family’s house is destroyed. So the mind boggles, with so many graduates of Israeli religious schools all dedicated to a greater Israel, and they also live abroad, ever ready to uphold the religion.
BTW, I think to lie or corrupt for God would also be a mitzvah.
The difference is the Saudi’s are official, they have badges.
