Archive for March 2009
Anarchists speaking at Speakers corner after the Demo last Saturday.
There are embarrassing moments in this recording, but there are also moments of wisdom.
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This is a 20 minute extract of the full recording.
After this extract some speaker is spewing a lot of rubbish (according to me)
This extract also available here
Actually I see no hope whatsover for calls for anarchy.
They will be the first to be mowed down.
And any call for violence is a fatal mistake.
Anarchy means living without authority, we are not ready for that.
But their predictions of the end of this system is correct.
Original sound from: http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2009/03/425587.html
A conservative blogger forgets about the wars and the genocide, that the missing billions are financing that, along with the huge pollution it generates.
He is forgiving to the bankers, “as they are necessary”. He must have a good savings account, or he is involved in corruption or war mongering…
And he does not mention Fiat money, which is licensing a band of criminals to rule over us.
He says there is nothing to replace capitalism, Ron Paul or Sharia economic laws are two suggestions.
James Burdett’s Blog: The thoughts of a Home Counties Conservative….
As the G20 approaches, everyone is expecting protests in London. Some are also expecting something more than just protests. I can imagine that a large part of these protests will feature people who are anti-capitalist, anti-globalisation, anti-US. There will be Climate Change protesters, there will be those who think that whacking the bankers will solve the problem. There will be all sorts of people with all sorts of different agendas and very few of them will be sensible or viable.
The anti-capitalists don’t have a viable agenda. What do you replace capitalism with? Communism? That worked in the 70 years that it was tried in the 2oth Century. Admittedly there are some outposts now in South and Latin America, but these nations are over time going to fall behind over time. The anti-globalisation crew need to realise that when anyone can get on a PC anywhere in the world and chat to anyone else anywhere else in the world then globalisation isn’t something you can successfully oppose. The Climate Change crew will no doubt be advocating solutions that are neither viable, nor would be terribly popular. The fact is that climate change needs to be dealt with but not in a knee-jerk fashion and not with methods that would do harm in other areas. The hang-a-banker crowd should realise that whilst yes some bankers went way beyond what they should have done, many of them were doing a very good job, and we need them to do a very good job going forward. History teaches that witch hunts don’t find witches, and they tell us more about the hunters than the hunted. –more–
Lets borrow from all strains of thought:
Buddhism – there is not one God, therefore everything is holy.
Christianity – forgive
Islam – No interest rates, no speculation – no making money from money.
Hindus – a perfect health system (Ayurveda)
World leaders have begun arriving in London ahead of this week’s G20 summit, where they will discuss ways of dealing with the global financial crisis.
But the summit is attracting much anger, with large protests expected.
Barbara Serra reports from London.
Obama holds “very pleasant” meeting with top US bankers
This is only the latest—and by no means the last—of the bank bailout schemes initiated by the Bush administration and continued under Obama. Before it is all over, upwards of $10 trillion will be handed over to these institutions.
On Tuesday, during his prime time press conference, Obama insisted, “The rest of us can’t afford to demonize every investor or entrepreneur who seeks to make a profit. That drive is what has always fueled our prosperity, and it is what will ultimately get these banks lending and our economy moving once more.”
As the administration works with Wall Street to make the banks—and the personal portfolios of the bankers—whole, Obama is preparing a massive attack on the working class. During his press conference, the president repeatedly stressed his determination to tackle “high health care costs” and implement “Entitlement reform”—i.e., cuts in Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid.
As the question of restrictions on executive bonuses is dropped, Obama repeated on Thursday his insistence that any aid to the auto industry be conditioned on further job and wage cuts from autoworkers. In an online town hall meeting, the president said that the auto industry will have to “make some pretty drastic changes. And some of those are still going to be painful.”
The policy of the administration is to ensure that this “pain” is born entirely by the working class, while the looting of public assets by the financial elite continues. –more–
Obama Will Face a Defiant World on Foreign Visit
WASHINGTON — President Obama is facing challenges to American power on multiple fronts as he prepares for his first trip overseas since taking office, with the nation’s economic woes emboldening allies and adversaries alike.
Despite his immense popularity around the world, Mr. Obama will confront resentment over American-style capitalism and resistance to his economic prescriptions when he lands in London on Tuesday for the Group of 20 summit meeting of industrial and emerging market nations plus the European Union.
The president will not even try to overcome NATO’s unwillingness to provide more troops in Afghanistan when he goes on later in the week to meet with the military alliance.
He seems unlikely to return home with any more to show for his attempts to open a dialogue with Iran’s leaders, who have, so far, responded with tough words, albeit not tough enough to persuade Russia to support the United States in tougher sanctions against Tehran. And he will be tested in face-to-face meetings by the leaders of China and Russia, who have been pondering the degree to which the power of the United States to dominate global affairs may be ebbing.
“Questioning growth is deemed to be the act of lunatics, idealists and revolutionaries. But question it we must. The myth of growth has failed us. It has failed the two billion people who still live on less than $2 a day. It has failed the fragile ecological systems on which we depend for survival. It has failed, spectacularly, in its own terms, to provide economic stability and secure people’s livelihoods.”
Strong words from Tim Jackson, Economics Commissioner of the Sustainable Development Commission, an independent advisory body to the UK government. It comes from a report entitled ‘Prosperity without growth’, and it sounds a warning to the G20 as they convene.
“A return to business as usual is not an option. Prosperity for the few founded on ecological destruction and persistent social injustice is no foundation for a civilised society. ” –more–
What’s Loud, Unnecessary, and Costs $75 Million?
A Group of 20 summit, of course.
… I have some sympathy for the Germans on this point. The reason they, the French, and many others in Europe—the British are an exception—have avoided spending large amounts of money on their economy is not because they are incompetent Continentals. It is because they do not think it will work. Strange though it may sound, Angela Merkel, the German chancellor, and Nicolas Sarkozy, the French president, are leaders who, for better or for worse, came to have some respect for what used to be called Anglo-American capitalism, with what used to be its reputation for fiscal conservatism. More to the point, they are also running up against the limits of what they can borrow and are worried about inflation as well. –Slate–
Professor Chris Knight talks about taking down the banks ahead of the G20 summit.
This is the man responsible for the G20-meltdown web site which became the central focus of the campaign – he was recently suspended from work – I think it gave him more time to work on the protest movement.
And I think the camera crew caught him on the hop, unprepared – bet he can do better than this!
June 18 1999 Carnival Against Capitalism in the City of London
This now forgotten demo was the first of the recent wave of anti capitalist protests in the western world as far as I’m aware. It took place some time before the now legendary Prague and Seattle demonstrations.
Picture from (Daily Mirror I think) here
The Stop the City demonstrations of 1983 and 1984 were described as a ‘Carnival Against War, Oppression and Destruction’, in other words protests against the military-financial complex. These demonstrations can be seen as the forerunner of the anti-globalisation protests of the 1990s, especially those in London on May Day and the Carnival against Capitalism on 18 June 1999. They were partially inspired by the actions of the Greenham Common Women’s Peace Camp.
Activities that formed part of these events were separate day-long street blockades of the financial district (‘The City’) of London – which supporters of the protest argued are a major centre for profiteering, and consequently a root cause of many of the world’s problems. One blockade involved 3,000 people, which succeeded in causing a £100 million shortfall on the day according to The Times.
“We should not have used tear gas on non violent protesters”
“I Made Major Mistakes” – Ex-Seattle Police Chief Admits Response to 1999 WTO Protests Was Too Heavy-Handed
We speak with Norm Stamper, the police chief of Seattle during the 1999 WTO protests, when police responded to protests by firing teargas and rubber bullets into the mostly peaceful crowd. The protests resulted in 600 arrests and in the eventual failure of the WTO talks. Stamper resigned soon afterward. I made major mistakes, Stamper says of his handling of the situation.
Note: he speaks at the beginning and the end of this video about the protests.
The Criminals are arriving one by one, they will represent us at the summit. Seriously they are pretty bad but that does not mean inciting violence is clever, it is not.
If the TV screens can show the protests as the loony fringe then the oligarchy will be happy.
The dead beats are also on the payroll, paid to be there cause they look bad and can do bad things, ex cons, whinos etc. Only when everyone rises can there be a change.
The organisers of the protests are a good lot, bycicling here and there and having meetings, preparing for trauma or legal defenses.
In the old days there was an argument that capitalism was natural, that no longer holds, it is anyway only a load of cartels and mafias.
In 36 hours thousands of uncity like people will be in the city. The population is generally being reduced to paupers. And the rich want to buy the select clever ones. Why not spread it out, make a middle class, capitalism has become obscene. Billionaires and millionaires and the poorer get poorer.
I tell you if we end the wars, and the self serving propaganda to support the wars, everything will be okay. But with our leaders drinking from bloodied cups everyday, taking advice from bombing raids, and looking at maps of overseas resources – how could they possibly care about anyone?
Consumerism has been fun, but it ain’t working, money is being siphoned off, and so many good souls forced into fraud and bombing. And of course expect perversion and torture to lurk nearby.
It must be the end of globalisation. Not that the G20 would say so. They want to patch up the speculators free spin.
Free markets everyone says don’t work yet they don’t want protectionism, that is a contradiction. Gold standard is a good idea. Fiat money is an absurdity, the prosperity was in many ways due to industrial food production, providing surplus food stocks, that is no longer certain. And Fiat Money was just a license for organised crime.
We all have to find a way to start again.
Our rulers will not allow the G20 protests to get out of hand. They themselves would plant bombs first.
Expect Buses, trains and Tubes to be canceled – it will be a pleasant surprise if they are not.
It is most unlikely for a revolution to occur in the next days, don’t get nabbed for nothing.
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A London venue where people are organising:
Taken from a previous post here: