Will Gaza change the world?

Every act of aggression has unforeseen consequences. I’d rather not call the Gaza offensive a war, it is a carnage waged by F 16s.

Will it galvanize the world together? Will it cause people to identify the same brutality elsewhere?

Could it cause the Israelis to reassess themselves? Actually I don’t believe the Israeli attitude is grass roots, I think it is indoctrination, which means overthrowing the indoctrinators.

Will it lead to the collapse of Capitalism? Globalisation? Free Markets? That is what is paying for the carnage.

Will we all embrace Communism, Islam? Will it end Jewish rule?

Nothing will happen unless many millions take to the streets.

The protests have so far been in the hundreds and a few thousands, but I cannot ever remember such an international solidarity, the protests are happening in so many countries.

And how many myths will now be challenged?

The digital age seems to have backfired on the warmongers. But they cannot understand why. It has been going on for 7 years. Afghanistan and Iraq, why are people so upset about Gaza? Maybe the Israelis have used up too much good will? Maybe, as much as they feel supportive and involved in Iraq and Afghanistan, that has not been the public perception.

Who is happy nowadays? What have our rulers to offer us? And who could support our actions in Gaza, Iraq and Afghanistan. Tragic acts by tragic people bringing tragedy to our doorsteps.

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Jews against Zionism. These jews are willing to tell the world the truth about terrorist Israel

Tipofthehat to : pakalert

Reading between the lines:

PressTV reports Pakistan’s LET commander was involved in the Mumbai assaults.

‘LeT chief admits Mumbai involvement’

Zarar Shah, a top LeT commander, captured in a raid early this month in Pakistani-administrated Kashmir, has confessed to the group’s involvement in November 26 Mumbai terror attacks, The Wall Street Journal reported on Wednesday.
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The Americans are believed to have given Pakistan a taped conversation Lakhvi allegedly had with the gunmen involved in the attacks, the Dawn newspaper said, quoting diplomatic sources.
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However, tension between the two neighboring states was resolved to some extent after Indian and Pakistani leaders held dialogue via telephone, following regional initiatives by countries such as China and Iran.
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It all reads very convincingly, but when reread with the Dawn article, and taking into account the Games intelligence agencies play, it is far from certain, and it is all more likely tied to the price of oil or an IMF loan. In fact there are more doubts than certainties regarding the Libyan so called hijackers of the Pan Am flight, the point being countries can be asked to do the humiliating.
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See the end of this post for the excerpt of the original Dawn report.
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And the Dawn article concludes that Islamamad does not think the tape is authentic, and the Pakistani Embassy in Wash. DC does. All smells a bit fishy doesn’t it?

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Lose a war by miscalculating the mood on the street, the amount of sympathisers the enemy has, and be full of hubris and righteousness.

Every single military action of the last eight years has been a disaster since our Neocon jewish brethren took over. And most Jews are not fascist, it seems just the ones in charge. The NeoCons.

If you think the Nazis got a bad name, wait and see what history records for the NeoCons.

And why are all the financial institutions going belly up? Because we have to pay to fight the Muslims, because they marry their cousins. So we can all end up in rivers of blood, in order to abide by the Old Testament.

There is no turning around, we are in a pyramid, any about face and everyone feels they will lose their security.

If the troops were brought home, it would be the beginning of hope. There are going to be calls for justice whatever happens, Pardons or no Pardons, crimes against humanity are the order of the day, and Pardons don’t help.

Whatever hairbrained scam brought on this Gaza venture will backfire like everything else, until the old guard steps aside. Your scams only work on the weak and the isolated. And they only bring short term results.

In a way the best hope is for the jews to have an uprising. That won’t happen, too many are embellished in their lordly manors.

The absolute control over the media is a total disaster. Brainwashing everyone into bloodthirst. The empire has to fall.

Mondoweiss is leading with so many posts about how Israel’s actions will weaken or spell the end of the Israeli Lobby in the US.

I can understand his indignation and wishful thinking. But it is naive. America (and much of the West) are the lobby. It is like saying Israels actions will end the US financial system. That might be on the cards, but it is not related to the current Israeli actions.

Although the American financial collapse is related to the lobby’s NeoCon wars. Only a revolution will alter the imperialistic policies. And I would hope it is a spiritual one.

It would be wise to equate Gaza with Iraq and Afghanistan, and the possible wars with Pakistan and Iran. Short of a revolution maybe a General Strike. Maybe a coup. Or losing a war.

The following is the comment I left on his post:

The real lobby is hidden and fierce. Pelosi and everyone else obeys. They are of the same makeup as the ones ordering the carnage in Gaza, Iraq and Afghanistan. They are also very happy to hear jewish voices of disapproval, such as this blog. Then they show there are good Jews. America IS the Jewish Lobby

It is not going anywhere
They listen to no one

Not the Afghans, Iraqis, Palestinians and not the Americans and not the British, and not the Good jews.

And they know violence Very Well!

Posted by: morris | December 30, 2008 at 01:43 PM

And here are two comments that followed mine:

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Nostalgia and old loyalties run dear. Rather like sentimentality and remembering the good old days. I was just wondering what is socialist about Ehud Barak’s labour party? Aren’t many of those traditional Israeli socialists starting to rethink their loyalties? Has Barak buried the Left? The third Reich was called National Socialism. Maybe the common jargon of being beyond the right and the left is appropriate.

How much bad publicity can Israel take? How much of what it is doing is based on world Jewry? The Rothschilds and religious elite? Surely old loyalists to Israel and Zionism must have some doubts in their minds about what they are doing?

Xymphora today remarked Israel does not want peace. He says it is the last thing world Jewry can live with. Israel did scupper the truce agreement when it invaded Gaza on the Eve of the US elections. Not that it ever honoured it, it always maintained some type of embargo of essential items. Then when the truce expired and a total embargo was in place, it offered a truce with the embargo.

The evil is all pervading, it is not confined to Israel’s actions in Gaza, the West Bank or in all the Middle East. It is Israeli actions everywhere. Designed to instill hate and sectarianism. With many sub clauses, namely, homosexuality, alcohol, eating beef, and it seems wanton destruction of nature, all with the assistance of coerced money lending.

There are many good Jews, and many good Israelis. The problem must lie with the leadership. And while the Politicians should be held accountable. They might not be the true leadership.

It is the 11th hour on the planet. American forces scour the planet, engaged in many acts of aggression. There are as many people again out of uniform also upholding this system based on bloodletting and sectarianism.

The actions of the last few days have been a turning point for world opinion, for the self perception of many Jews, and possibly for some Israelis. The actions of Israel can only lead to more bloodshed, whatever the immediate outcome, we can be certain of more and more bloodshed, until the Israelis and their zionist supporters (or slaves) change their self perception and attitude.

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Story Highlights

Protests reported in Denmark, France, Italy, Spain, Britain and Venezuela

In Iraq, demonstrators set fire to Israeli flag, photo of President Bush

Hezbollah leader speaks via satellite to protesters in Beirut, Lebanon

Greek protesters hurl stones outside Israeli Embassy; police fire tear gas

LONDON, England (CNN) — Israeli attacks on suspected Hamas strongholds in Gaza have triggered protests in more than a dozen countries.
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A girl in Caracas, Venezuela, holds a sign reading, "No more massacre in Gaza" at Israel's embassy Monday.

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The attacks entered their third day Monday, with more than 300 people in Gaza reported killed and hundreds more wounded. Israel says the military assault is in response to ongoing rocket strikes on Israel, which have killed two Israelis.

In London, England, dozens of protesters gathered outside the Israeli Embassy, waving flags and trying to push their way closer to the building, as police tried to hold them back and erect a barricade.

Police in Germany said about 2,000 protesters marched peacefully down Berlin’s Kurfuerstendamm Boulevard and dispersed after about three hours.

Protesters also have taken to the streets in Denmark, France, Italy and Spain, according to news reports. There also were reports of demonstrations in Caracas, Venezuela.

Iranian media reported that thousands took part in anti-Israel demonstrations in Tehran on Monday, which the government declared a day of mourning for the Palestinians in Gaza.

Photographs of the rallies posted by Iran’s semi-official Fars News Agency showed black-shrouded women and men holding shoes in the air — widely considered an insult in the Middle East — while others held Palestinian flags and signs that said “Down with U.S.A.” in English and Farsi.

Greek riot police clashed with protesters in Athens during a demonstration outside the Israeli Embassy, according to police and images broadcast on state television.

Protesters hurled stones in an attempt to break through the police cordon around the heavily secured embassy. Police responded with tear gas.

In Iraq, hundreds of supporters of Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr demonstrated in al-Mustansiriya Square in eastern Baghdad. The demonstrators carried Iraqi and Palestinian flags, banners and pictures of al-Sadr and his father.
The demonstrators threw an Israeli flag on the ground, put President Bush’s picture on top of it and set both on fire.

In the Muslim world, demonstrations also were held in Jordan, Egypt, Pakistan, Indonesia, Libya and Bahrain, the BBC and other news outlets reported.

Also, thousands of Lebanese demonstrators packed the streets of Beirut as part of a rally called by the militant group Hezbollah. Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah addressed the crowd via satellite from an undisclosed location.

Protests were also held in Israel, where students at universities in Haifa, Tel Aviv and Jerusalem demonstrated against the Israeli military operation, ynetnews.com reported.

CNN

The cold hearted ruthless calculations that bring death to many:

The crucial battle of Gaza is therefore still to come, as indicated by Israel’s deputy chief of staff Maj. Gen. Israel Harel, when he warned Monday that the hardest part of the campaign is still ahead.

Debka

If the hardest part is ahead that means there has already been challenges. Bombing from 20,000 feet I guess. Israelis always refer to these campaigns as wars. But they have such overwhelming military superiority it seems more like a slaughter than a war. To the modern state of Israel, to voice truth is blasphemy.

Debka is also reporting that 3 Israelis have died, tragic as that is, it is pale in comparison to what they are doing to the 1 and a half million imprisoned impoverished Gazans. I think Israel with all the support of its citizens (and the Neocons) is killing off Judaism and Israel.

Debka is suggesting Israel is watching Nasrallah closely.

So far, this Tehran-sponsored Lebanese Shiite leader is making his mark verbally, but his repeated fiery rhetoric day after day aims at goading Iran and Syria, Hamas’ avowed patrons, into intervening in the Gaza crisis to rescue Hamas, so dragging in the other Arab governments.

Actually everyone is watching Nasrallah.

From Chris Floyd on Uruknet:

Here is a simple, stone cold fact. You cannot read or hear the truth about what is happening in Gaza from any corporate media in the United States. The only thing you will find there are regurgitations of Israeli spin, ….

Haaretz:
The story also notes that the recent racheting of tension was sparked, deliberately, by a heavy-handed Israeli incursion into Gaza

Uruknet

From the Angry Arab:

December 29, 2008

By comparison
Michele sent me this: “In an effort to help Americans get a sense of the death & destruction in Gaza, I came up with the following figures yesterday.

Gaza pop = 1387276 and .02% is 277
Israel pop is 7337000 and .02% is 1,467
US pop is 305505444 and .02% is 61,101
I’ve double checked my figures and believe they are correct…for yesterday. Can you imagine how we Americans would react and feel if 61,101 Americans had died in the last 3 days from bombs?”

Posted by As’ad at 11:20
Uruknet

Israel can’t cope with anyone or entity having independence, it must be contrary to Judaic thought.

Israel: Don’t even speak about peace
Mon, 29 Dec 2008

Israel’s envoy to the United Nations says that there will be no negotiations about peace, as Tel Aviv attacks Gazan civilians for a third day.

PressTV

Pakistan is more belligerent than ever, suddenly it seems to view the Mumbai killings as a frame up. It was wrongfooted at the beginning, and then many voices were saying its PM was a US agent. Now US supplies to afghanistan that run through Pakistan are in jeopardy.

Iran is seemingly angrier than ever regarding Gaza. Their leader has proclaimed a Fatwa that all Muslims should assist the Gazans. Nasrallah has the following to make a war. And he has put his fighters o alert! Maybe it was a mistake when Israel assassinated his sons?

The US under Bush and probably under Obama is unhappy with all the countries mentioned above. Even Turkey is calling Israel’s actions a war crime. It seems more likely that China and Russia would come to Iran’s assistance. Where does all this leave Europe, The EU might not remain united. France, Germany, Austria and Italy are unknowns. Even the UK is not a certainty. When push comes to shove, and the questions are to have gas or oil or not, it doesn’t matter what the politicos are saying now.

Certainly Israel and the US can speak with one voice. Can they take all the other Anglo Saxon countries too? Probably. And India is a big question. It might not fight.

Hell with three weeks to go till the staunchest Neocons are gone, and a queue of Madoffs and Insurance companies and Banks all tottering, well …..

Regarding Pakistan, it has been out on a limb, without friends to support it, which suited India, Israel and the US. But ominously China is now stepping in.

China assures to ease Pak-Indo tension

Mon, 29 Dec

Both Islamabad and New Delhi should resolve all issues through dialogue,” Yafei added. He urged India to share Mumbai attack evidence with Pakistan.

Presstv

Israel is used to calling the tunes, and even with some discomfort – the West seems to follow – but can it misjudge?

Renewed protests at Israeli raids

Rallies in Indonesia, Iraq, Venezuela, Lebanon and Jordan.

Protests against the Israeli military action in the Gaza Strip have again been taking place, with rallies in several cities across the region.

For a second day in Jordan, several thousand protesters gathered in Amman and burned Israeli and American flags.

There were similar rallies in Egypt, Syria, Libya and Iraq with many calling for a firm response from their leaders.

One of the largest gatherings was in the Lebanese capital, Beirut, organised by the Hezbollah movement.

Tens of thousands of people poured on to the streets of southern Beirut, many carrying Palestinian, Lebanese and Hezbollah flags and banners supporting the Palestinian people, the Associated Press news agency reported.

The rally was called for by Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah, who in a speech on Sunday urged crowds in the Arab and Islamic world to rise up in support of Gaza.

He also urged his fighters in southern Lebanon, who fought a brief war with Israel in 2006, to be on alert in case of Israeli attacks.

In Amman demonstrators, responding to a call by Islamist-led trades unionists, marched to the office of Prime Minister Nader Dahabi and delivered a letter demanding Jordan scrap its 1994 peace treaty with Israel and close its embassy, the AFP news agency reported.

Egyptians staged their largest yet demonstration against Israel’s offensive against the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip, with thousands taking to the streets of central Cairo.
The rally was once again organised by the Islamist opposition in Egypt, the Muslim Brotherhood, the group from which Hamas first emerged.
Elsewhere in the Islamic world, there were anti-Israeli protests in Bangladesh and Pakistan.

BBC